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01:00:08:06 MANOJ: There are seven billion of us in the world today. And we're facing some huge problems, but talk doesn't help someone out of poverty. Awareness doesn't reduce pollution or grow food. Or heal the sick. That takes doing. The solutions are here. Great inventions that generate clean energy. That make fresh water. That improve our health. This is the story of what we've been doing... Hi, my name is Manoj Bhargava, the founder of Five Hour Energy drink.

01:00:53:14 JERRY SEINFIELD: Have you seen this little bottle by the cash register? That's a weird amount of time. But I can't drink anymore then this. I don't have the energy.

01:01:07:18 DAVID LETTERMAN: Top ten Rick Perry excuses.

01:01:10:11 RICK PERRY: I had a Five-Hour Energy Drink six hours before the debate.

01:01:14:06 DAVID LETTERMAN: Oh no.

01:01:17:08 MANOJ: I have this idea for this drink. Within two months we had it on the shelf. It was growing bigger and bigger. And all of a sudden it became one of the largest consumer products in the world.

01:01:27:21 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (NEWSCASTER?): Five-Hour energy.

01:01:29:01 MALE ON TODAY NEWS SHOW: Sales got up twelve percent.

01:01:30:08 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They sold over a billion and a half bottles.

01:01:32:07 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ninety percent of the market share.

01:01:33:19 MALE NEWSCASTER: He's cracked the Forbes Billionaire list.

01:01:42:05 MANOJ: But I realized oh my God, we're making a lot of money here, what do we do with this? [laughs]... I'll tell you how we work in our company, somebody comes to me with a project or something needs to be done and I, first question I ask is, is it useful? How is it useful? Okay. And if it's not useful it better be entertaining. And if it's not useful or entertaining, there's really only one basket left. And that's useless... Five Hour's a lot of things for me, because it's also the enabler that gives us an opportunity to do things that other people can't do... This was our first building which is really more five-hour energy. And then uh we bought this whole thing. Now we have ten buildings and twenty-five acres... One of the buildings out of the ten buildings is an invention shop, which is called stage two. My approach to things is, let's do stuff, invent stuff. Make a difference in other people's lives.

01:03:04:14 RAVI: Stage Two works in the area of water, power, health. Our goal is very simple. To deliver innovations that can directly impact humanity. And the only way to do that is to actually go fund it.

01:03:20:09 MANOJ: Our view is if you can invent stuff that can be used long-term it's probably the most fundamental change you can make. We've put an infrastructure together so that great inventions that help the poorer half of the world make their lives better. That's we define as a great invention. That's a software change... Incredibly it doesn't take an enormous amount of money. What it takes is just doing the right things. And inventing the right things.

01:03:52:16 BILLY: My name's Billy Tally and I run the engineering and operations at Stage 2 Operations. Manoj truly believes in giving back. One of his ways that he believes in giving back is coming up with innovations to help people.

01:04:06:15 MANOJ: Stage Two is filled with tinkerers, guys that in their garage, they don't have cars. They have stuff they're building.

01:04:16:14 KEVIN: You should see how I got hired. I had actually built a Nail Gun Powered Pogo Stick. And they thought I fit the job well.

01:04:22:09 MANOJ: These guys are in heaven. I mean I think they'd work there if I didn't pay ‘em.

01:04:27:19 BILLY: Alright cool.

01:04:29:08 MANOJ: When Billy first came to us I said Billy, whatever you want to buy go buy it. I think he was in shock, because you never tell a guy who likes tools he can buy whatever tools he wants.

01:04:04:14 BILLY: We have a very, very uh well equipped shop here. There's not much we can't build ourselves.

01:04:17:13 DR. JACK JUNI: Manoj has expressed many times, if it doesn't make a big difference, find something else to do. Life is to short to-to spend it doing things that don't have a real impact. We're here to make a difference.

01:05:03:20 MANOJ: If you want to do something for the poorer half of the world be here. If it doesn't make us money but it's really going to change the lives of people we're still going to do it. We have the wherewithal, to make it a usable product so that people throughout the world can use it.

01:05:20:10 KIT SMOKER: We strive to be fast to failure. We're going to take something and we're going to run as fast as we can to do what we need to do so we can determine whether we're going to go forward or we're not.

01:05:29:08 BILLY: These are items that we want to bring out on a large scale that he truly believes in.

01:05:33:09 MANOJ: In order to make this, if we didn't have this shop it'd be weeks out. Now these guys can program it and make it probably in a day. That part is really, really important... We just concentrate on those things that are going to be incredibly useful. And if you come up with something cool that's not, we don't do it. I have no interest. I don't want to be cool. I actually am never going to be cool. [laughs] So that, that, that, that's long gone... My job I think is to make complex simple, where as it seems a con-con- consultant's job is to make simple complicated. Uh, we [laughs] we use some experts and consultants sometime and usually when a science guy says it can't be done, to me that's validation that-that it can. So it-it-it's a different but ‘cause [stutters] we, I mean we define stuff. Like expert, what's an expert? Expert is something, someone who knows everything what was. He's really good at what was. And if you ask him about what will be he says no, no that can't be done because I'm an expert on what was. What- what, why do I need you? Because if I wanted to do what was I don't have a business. And so we-we, we look at, we do talk to experts just to make sure that maybe they've thought of something or the history of the, that area is something that we haven't though of. But we really don't rely on them for the future because that's just silly... To me the largest area of work for the future: energy and water are the real solutions to health, livelihood. All of the stuff that goes above it. Most people don't realize in-in rich countries, but half the world either has no electricity or electricity 2, 3 hours a day. Everything requires energy. So you try to look for that which is the one thing that will lead to benefits that are across hundreds of things.

01:07:38:15 MANOJ: So, human mechanical energy is so amazing, why can't we use that to create energy. So we've invented a hybrid bicycle that you pedal for an hour and you have electricity for 24 hours. We call it free electric. The free electric I think is the coolest of all our inventions. Not just because it just looks really great but it's so simple, it's sort of what we try to do is make things simpler, and simpler. And yet it's going to effect, maybe have the largest effect of anything in the last 100 years. The reason for the poorer half of the world, they'll have-have electricity 24/7. Electricity is the greatest enabler there is. And we've kept half the world out of it. This enables all these people who have not been part of the industrial revolution. They're still living as if it's two thousand years ago. All of these people now can become part of a productive society and this is what will enable them. This solves the problem no matter what happens, the sun shines or cloudy, or night or whatever it is. Anything happens you have electricity. You're never out of electricity. Also if you look at worldwide, the other side is really interesting.

01:09:06:01 David Markus: Hurricane Katrina was a category 5 monster that became the costliest disaster ever in the U.S.

01:09:13:11 MANOJ: If a disaster happens, if Katrina hits, or some big storm hits and we've all been through where you've had no electricity. The one thing you don't want, you want your cellphone to be always available. You don't want to be out of touch. And you don't want to be in the dark. The worst is, being without a cellphone and being in the dark [laughs]. So you're alone in the dark. With this it can never happen. What people normally do is they'll get a generator, diesel generator. But the problem with the diesel generator is when disaster hits there's no more diesel available. You have this you will never run out of electricity. And you never generate any pollution. So half the world is not going to generate pollution in their homes. So if you pump for an hour, you're keeping maybe a pound of C02 in the air. Right now we're pumping about twenty five billion pounds of matter up in the air, every year. And you figure sometime that's gonna make a difference. Every year? So what this does is you have electricity for all these people and it's mechanical you work for an hour you have electricity for 24 hours. The only side effect is you get stronger and healthier. There is no other side effect to that. That's the ideal invention. That's why simple stuff is the greatest. Because it impacts everything and it doesn't have unattended consequences.

01:10:48:09 BILLY: There really is only a-a few components. You have the basic frame. You have the bicycle gearing, you have the flywheel, you have the battery and the generator. So it's-it's very very simple. You know there's not a whole lot to it and it's just like riding a bicycle, you know it-

01:11:04:04 MANOJ: Right.

01:11:04:14 BILLY: After you get going-

01:11:05:12 MANOJ: Let's see if I can do it.

01:11:06:16 BILLY: -it's pretty simple.

01:11:09:05 MANOJ: So this-this is the right gear for starting?

01:11:10:21 BILLY: Yeah. Well that, that, you're in second gear actually so you're a little bit tall. So it's like driving your car in a way in second gear.

01:11:22:05 MANOJ: Well actually I can see there, that's uh better, you lean back.

01:11:24:22 BILLY: Yes, that's the whole part about the reclining side.

01:11:27:14 MANOJ: Well that's pretty cool.

01:11:28:09 BILLY: With human energy and working out a lot of efficiencies we're able to go and power a thousand fifty equivalent watts of lighting and energy power. That's like being able to-to power ten hundred watt light bulbs. I mean that's a lot of light.

01:11:42:22 MANOJ: Wow... So when, when does this start to get to a point where it's, lights up everything?

01:11:52:08 BILLY: Well actually right about now... It'll be any time now. There you-

01:11:58:16 MANOJ: There we go, alright. Is that from me?

01:12:02:18 BILLY: Yeah.

01:12:03:05 MANOJ: Just doing it here?

01:12:04:09 BILLY: Yep.

01:12:05:14 MANOJ: Actually this isn't bad this is-

01:12:07:03 BILLY: No it's not bad at all.

01:12:08:07 MANOJ: This is like where you would set a bike if you were going to exercise.

01:12:12:09 BILLY: Yep. And with that you're still able to charge your cellphone, you're able to uh charge your tablet um run a small fan. You know, it really kind of puts some of these things into perspective. Pedal for an hour and you can have lights, charge your phone, and everything else throughout the night.

01:12:30:03 MANOJ: This is the cheapest, most practical way of getting electricity throughout the world. No matter where remote location you are. So now all of a sudden, all this whole economy of all of these poor that were not contributing anything to their outside world, now they're all bringing it up. All of sudden they're on the internet. You know. They're getting information on, on- All of a sudden they're getting educated. So the-the real thing is to get the poor out of their poverty and one of the basics is energy. I mean think about it, the poor have stayed the poorer half because they have no power. They have no energy. That's one of the most fundamental things. That and water. Those are the two biggest things that poor person really needs... Somebody asked me you know on the interview they said wh-wh-what, what does a entrepreneur really need. So I-I said they only need two things. Common sense and a sense of urgency. That's it. And they asked me who the, who should we learn this stuff from and my answer was, from your mom. Because she's probably done more management then your MBA professor. You know. Because, she's got a budget, she's got all of these kids running around, hard to manage, all of this has to be done every day, seven days a week. Now that's work. That's hard work. That's learning on the job.

01:14:10:15 MANOJ: No matter where somebody stands on global warming or that whole issue, pollution is a problem, I don't care who you are or what your scientific uh belief system is, we know that that's bad we need to get rid of it. Is there a way to get totally clean energy that's sort of the bull's-eye of all answers. With no pollution and unlimited energy... So our first question was, where is the energy and there's only one answer. And that's right here. A few miles underneath us is unlimited power, unlimited energy. A few miles down, deeper you go the hotter it gets. You take that energy and you bring it up. Unlimited, pollution free. Is there a way to bring up just the energy? Just the heat.

01:15:04:21 RAVI: You can't use copper wire because it'll melt. So we found this material called graphene.

01:15:10:20 MANOJ: Graphene is a substance that is really made out of graphite, which is like pencil lead, right? And what they discovered was that if they take one molecule layer at a time off this graphite that's called graphene. Okay. And it has incredible properties.

01:15:29:01 RAVI: It's hundred times better conductor then copper, it's lighter then air, stronger then steel.

01:15:35:05 MANOJ: It transfers heat, really efficiently.

01:15:38:03 RAVI: If you put hundred degrees here you get a hundred on the other side instantly, and the middle is completely cool.

01:15:45:00 MANOJ: So the heat that you put in, gets all the way there. Whether you go ten feet or you go miles you could bring up unlimited energy from deep underground to the surface pollution free. And so I approached the graphene guys and I said, could you make me a string. And they looked at me like,why would we make a string. You know, I said look a string is the most rudimentary technology right. If you have a string of something you can make cloth, you can make walls, you can make rope, you can make a cable. So if you I'll put those strings together and make a cable. Then I'll put the cable underneath the ground and that cable will bring up the heat. And so at first they were a little weary because it seemed too simple.

01:16:43:20 RAVI: They have already made the first set of ropes for us the short ones. They have tested it and found it to work perfectly fine, they're using that and working at stage 2 in Michigan. Stage 2 has a platform we are building where we'll test everything out and then that product and then that product will be commercially manufactured and propagated from Singapore.

01:17:05:12 MANOJ: This would be the greatest invention maybe ever, because if you can get unlimited energy from underneath the earth, pollution-free that's everything, that's everything. You have no pollution, you have no fossil fuel issues. You have no, um, you know, C02 coming out, uh greenhouse gasses, you know none of that, all of that is answer. You had no money, no research, no resources are being put to this. So this is a sort of a teaser to say look guys, in your country, you want energy security, do this. You have unlimited energy without having to import anything. Now some countries are not going to like this very much because those who export fossil fuels are going to be pretty upset with me. Um, but I've kind of transferred all this technology, all of our thoughts to Singapore so that there's a, there's a, a place that's, that's neutral. That is then going to give it to the rest of the world. And so this is to encourage people to say look if you want energy security put resources in this.

01:18:32:05 MANOJ: Energy is the great equalizer. If energy was plentiful the poor wouldn't be poor. Our concern here isn't to make people rich. Our concern is can we get them to make a livelihood, can we get them to be healthy, can we get them clean water. If you can get it to that level for the people that don't have it, that's an enormous benefit... Wall Street fellas are so enamored of companies that spend 5 percent of their sales on research verses 3 percent. What, is this brains by the pound? You know it's not about the doesn't come from money and history tells us that and we still chase it. Mobs of PHD's do not come up with great inventions. It's a couple of guys in a garage that have proven that that's not true. And as soon as you get a couple of people- throughout history it's only been a couple of people have come out with the greatest of stuff. And yet we insist that if we have a thousand PHD's instead of 500 we're going to do it better. It makes no sense.

01:19:45:17 FEMALE NEWS REPORTER: The drought has left it's mark here.

01:19:48:18 MALE NEWS REPORTER: Some communities could soon run out of water entirely.

01:19:52:18 ANOTHER MALE NEWS REPORTER: This is what the Sierra looked like a year ago. But this winter what a difference. The state now in extreme drought.

01:19:59:14 MANOJ: Nature's always smarter then we are. Lets say that you come up with an invention that makes clean water out of all this huge amounts of salt water that the world has, water everywhere not a drop to drink. We've got all this water but we can't use lot of places around the world, whether it's India, Africa, China, everywhere there's a shortage of water and one of the reasons we went after water is because it is totally fundamental to human life.

01:20:36:13 BILLY: Alright, gray bars are holding, starting to make distillate.

01:20:43:03 MANOJ: Where we are right now is the rain project. This equipment what it does, it turns seawater or any dirty water into fresh water.

01:20:54:06 RAVI: One of the reasons why we got involved in the rain project is we saw a lot of lacking technologies in the market that generate what we call high quality water. Which can be used for agricultural, drinking and industrial applications. But more importantly it does not require any operation support.

01:21:13:12 BILLY: Alright, start spinning other parts.

01:21:17:18 MANOJ: The reason we called it the rain project, basically mimics nature. It heats water, you have water vapor and then you take that moisture into a different compartment and then you distill it. The steam or vapor turns into water. So it takes energy to heat the water, and then the energy is released when you turn it back to water. So we take that energy and recycle it back to heating the water again. This little-bitty machine here can do a thousand gallons an hour. Some of the great things about it compared to what the technology is today is one it has no parts that go, that are consumables. No screens or no membranes that go bad and it can be made to make distilled water or any level of clean water. Whereas current technology will only take seawater and turn it into drinking water, but it will not turn it into water that can be used for agriculture. It still has too much salt.

01:22:21:10 BILLY: This was our-our-our prototype version from six months ago. We learned off this version, we added some new ideas and concepts and we built to what we believe is our next version to go into the field for commercial use.

01:22:38:10 MANOJ: Billy came out of automotive so everything is made with that discipline in mind. That you're gonna build a plant and then you're gonna have, pop hundreds of these out a day.

01:22:48:22 BILLY: As we can call it we can cookie-cutter it. So we can stamp out thousands upon thousands of them.

01:22:55:16 MANOJ: The world's requirements are staggering. So you need to be able to build thousands of these, you know. Instead of one plant that takes fifteen years to build. We don't have the time for that.

01:23:09:08 BILLY: We're able to take, you know, sea water, undrinkable, unusable for anything and turn it into, into complete drinking water literally in a-in a matter of minutes. And the beauty is it's a very self-contained system. You don't need a lot of infrastructure to do it. If you move something in, in a modular basis, you need the hoses to hook up for the water, a couple of tanks to collect the water and electricity to run it. So it's a very easy um and-and a modular system to be able to put in. Anywhere in the world. And when you're done you have lovely, fresh, clean, water. It's warm enough to make tea right now. But, good fresh ready to go.

01:23:52:15 LOTFY NATHAN: Great. How is it?

01:23:55:04 BILLY: It's good, it's good distilled water. You know it's, it's uh, this, this water right here is probably at a level um almost to pharmaceutical grade water.

01:24:04:09 LOTFY NATHAN: Wow.

01:24:05:04 BILLY: And uh that's one of the other beauties. We can raise or lower what how what the level we want to. But this is very, very, very pure water right now.

01:24:13:22 MANOJ: For fresh, clean water comes food, comes livelihood for farmers, comes health.

01:24:22:04 MALE NEWS REPORTER: This is the first time exceptional drought has ever been declared in California. These before and after pictures show where water levels should be and where they are today.

01:24:34:11 MANOJ: Whether you're rich or poor it doesn't matter. If you don't have water, you have to move or die. That's gonna happen across the world, we have to work on water. There's no choice. So in California, I mean right now they're not looking at it nobody wants to say it, but if you don't get water, if you don't solve this problem California becomes a desert. Now we're looking at it and saying... Instead of one big desalination piece of equipment you have a farm of these. It can either be put on the shore next to the ocean. Or you create this barge which has a lot of units on it. So a barge can maybe produce somewhere between 15 and 20 million gallons a day. Right. And why, the question would be, why, why on a barge? Well the simple answer is that's where the water is. You know, so lets say you put them a couple miles offshore you have this barge which has a-a short height because the equipment is underneath. And the reason it's underneath uh is because the water will just flow into it. And so you don't have to pump water in. So it flows in, doesn't kill the wildlife. You can then pipe the freshwater either on floating pipes uh to the land. Or you can put it on tankers and-and bring it to land. so we're thinking of things like if you, if you had a hundred or two hundred barges lets say uh off southern California's coast you could, all the short fall of southern California would be covered and the advantage of that is if people at that point say, well you know, we don't like you being there. Okay, see ya, we'll go to next place. So there's some- The answers have to be uh, lower in energy then it needs to be made in massive scale. And then it also has to be, go past political issues. All of those are real problems and so this project what it does is say, okay, we this, if you have thousands of barges throughout the world we can address the-the needs of you know, of ridiculous amounts of people.

01:26:51:11 MANOJ: And in the end we're gonna have to do that in order to-to-to take care of the seven, eight, nine billion people that are gonna end up on earth. So-So that's, that's a project that's for us is a big deal... We have uh what's called a prime directive, which is if any of you have ever seen Star Trek there's a prime directive. And the prime directive in our company is no aggravation. Okay, nobody gets to give us aggravation. Whether it's customers, vendors, employees. If you aggravate, you got to go. It's that simple. Because, and it's really business, because usually it's the one percent, you know some customer that's got one percent of your business, and he's driving you nuts. And he's taking up eighty percent of your head. How is that business? So aggravation is the largest cost in business.

01:27:48:04 MANOJ: My work is my hobby. I don't really do work because I have to. I actually like it. It's my basketball and football. So much fun. I just tried four different new flavors of Five-Hour.

01:28:01:02 EMPLOYEE: That's why your smiling.

01:28:01:14 MANOJ: Hey, yeah [laughs]. I can go from one, you know all of a sudden doing charity to-to doing technical, to doing five hour flavor. To switch from company to company within minutes. You know [laughs].

01:28:12:24 DR. JUNI: I don't think he would be Manoj if he wasn't doing a lot of thing at-at uh, one time. It's how he thrives.

01:28:19:15 MANOJ: I want a Jetson suitcase. Oh [laughs] wow. Good luck with that... Which way? I always get lost here. Too many companies. Found my keys. So annoying... Look at that, more fancy. Oh wow.

01:28:49:03 RAVI: We have to do a joke about (UNINTELLIGEBLE) this is especially for you.

01:28:42:16 MANOJ: Oh God. This is just to annoy me. This is to give me aggravation [laughs].

01:29:00:01 RAVI: Well let me give you a quick 50 cent tour.

01:29:02:08 MANOJ: Ok yeah.

01:29:04:20 WORKER: So this uh about three times the size we had.

01:29:07:14 MANOJ: Okay. It's the cutting edge of medical science today. Is changed. From what they've been doing for the last fifty years. For the last fifty years what they've been doing is saying okay, here's the disease let's kill it. You know, lets kill something. And now what they're looking at is well, no, no, no that's really not the answer. The answer is what is known as immunotherapy. In other words the, in cancer right now the biggest thing that everybody is working on is immunotherapy. What the ultimate goal is, is to make somebody stronger internally so that disease doesn't happen. Or that the disease becomes so small because it's getting attacked by the immune system. What we found for that is one of the great products that's been invented... You know decades ago. So when it was invented it wasn't the right time for it. Now when people are looking at immunotherapy is the big thing this is probably the biggest weapon in it's arsenal. Yeah it is same memory foam.

01:30:21:04 WORKER: Only the color is uh different. Is uh-

01:30:23:19 MANOJ: Slightly yeah.

01:30:24:20 WORKER: And everything else is the same.

01:30:27:01 DR. JUNI: Right here we're working on the ECP project called renew. And the ECP project stands for External Counter Pulsation. The idea is the ECP squeezes blood from the legs back into the core body and assists the heart when the heart's resting. While the heart is resting, this is pumping. While the heart is pumping, this is resting. They go back and forth so it acts almost like an auxiliary heart. The arteries become wider which lets blood pass more easily. The effects happen through the entire body. The evidence is overwhelming that it makes people healthier.

01:31:06:16 MANOJ: Right. Tighten that then tighten it. Right there you go. Was that easier?

01:31:11:02 WOMAN: Yes, yeah.

01:31:12:07 MANOJ: Yeah... When I first looked at I said, are you guys kidding? I mean is this Monty Python? You know, this one and this one. There's an old movie called uh Life of Brian, people volunteering for crucifixion. If somebody asks me okay you've got heart problems, which would you like surgery or not surgery? Well first, I'd like to try the non-surgery, guys. I mean I don't have to be a genius to figure that part out. Even if it doesn't work as well. You know, you'd still say I want to go with the non-surgical approach. We looked at that, we thought okay this is pretty obvious. And then we realized that there was so many things it was doing. And amazingly the science guys, over the years there were three hundred published peer reviewed studies, on the benefits of this. And yet, it never made it into the mainstream. Well, when first somebody came to me with I said, look, I you know, there's so much logic here, I'm just going to buy one. So there were a couple of guys that were making it, uh, now because nobody really bought many of these it was a big clunker. It took up half the room and it was 220, created heat and it was terrible. Right. But I said that doesn't matter I'm going to buy it.

01:32:34:087 BILLY: So we have one here, all folded up.

01:32:37:00 MANOJ: Can you put it together?

01:32:38:19 BILLY: So we will go and-

01:32:41:04 MANOJ: That's a good idea. Just... Oh. I should time this.

01:32:46:17 BILLY: [laughs]

01:32:48:00 MANOJ: Now we changed the whole thing and made it really simple, small. Made a bunch of modifications to it. We've talked to some of the top guys in the world in terms of both cardiologists as well as medical research guys and they're all, of course this is great. However we asked some people that are not at the top of the field and they said, no, no, no, no. This is for old people that can't have surgery this is way better. And it's not because they're being dishonest. It's because how everybody's been trained. It's legacy. It's how I was taught.

01:33:20:18 BILLY: Put the hoses on and it's ready to run.

01:33:22:10 MANOJ: Okay, well that was about a, less then a minute.

01:33:25:03 BILLY: [laughs]

01:33:25:21 MANOJ: Okay. So actually this can now be put in a corner somewhere. Or taken in a truck or a van or something.

01:33:30:11 BILLY: [OVERLAPS] You can put it in a closet, put it in a corner, you could store it away. Or-

01:33:33:21 MANOJ: Very cool.

01:33:34:20 BILLY: You know, it can go room to room for people. You know it-

01:33:37:04 MANOJ: Right. Right. In a doctors office or something.

01:33:40:15 BILLY: And it plugs into a normal 110 volt plug.

MANOJ: What it does is it enhances circulation. Nature has already made this pump called the heart. And it's pumping to keep everything going. You know. Getting Oxygen and nutrients, hauling of the waste. Then what happens over time is the pump gets old. The pump gets old, it doesn't quite do the job. All of a sudden you've got all kinds of things happening from, you know from your toes to your hair. You know. Skin's wrinkling. Arthritis. All of these things happen. Where do they come from? Really where they came from, is that you got weaker. Your system got weaker. That's when you let all of this junk in. Think about it. If you leave waste, if you leave trash all over the body, if you leave trash in your head, and then you get a disease in your head and you're thinking well, how, how did I get a disease. Well you left trash in your head. Right. It's, when trash happens in rots, it turns to poison. All of a sudden you have diseases. If you haul away the trash, the chances of being better, being healthier, and not having those diseases come in are much higher...

01:35:00:01 MANOJ: So what this does is enhances circulation. And again, back to what we do here at Stage 2. It's just nature with a twist. We go for simple which is, if you're healthier, if you're better, if you're stronger then there's less disease. I got this from Sir David Lane. And I was thinking all about nutrients and Oxygen. And he pointed out, no, no, Manoj, it hauls away the waste. And he put it so well, which was, the idea is not to treat an illness, it's to treat wellness. It's to make wellness better. That's how you treat illness. Right. That was, that was so smart.

01:35:46:03 RAVI: David Lane is uh regarded as one of the foremost scientists and experts in the area of cancer and oncology. He's actually been knighted by the queen, he's a brilliant person, uh, when you get to talk to him, you'll realize, how fast he can understand things we are doing. And he sees tremendous benefits for ECP and healthcare. So his point is if you can delay ailments, that's healthcare.

01:36:10:10 DAVID: We tend to think of ourselves as being well or being ill. But the reality is, it's a continuum. And what we, what we should be aiming for is great wellness and no illness. I think what we tend to do is think we're well until we're ill. And-And that's the wrong way around. We need to be thinking about maintaining health as a much more proactive process. Everybody wants a shortcut so maybe I take this vitamin and I'll be better or maybe I'll do this I'll be better. But what we need to do is think about fundamentals. So what is the fundamental? A fundamental is the blood, the circulation that's what your hearts doing that's what's taking nutrients around your body, that's' what's critical for eliminating waste products. So clearly poor circulation is the basis of a- of a lot of illness. So it's clear to me, you know, that anything that can help people to uh, to improve their health is very, very important. So ECP's an example of ays, well you know how can something so simple work. How can just pumping your circulation a bit help. But the question is ask the question. Does it work? If it does work then it's very valuable. And I think this is where, you know, you have to go outside the system. I mean the current system, educates people to behave in a certain way. You know, you, you, you get ill, you go to the doctor. The doctors a Godlike figure, the doctors going to save you. You know, that's how it works. And, and instead of thinking, oh I'm part of this process, you know, I can't be passive, I should be active. And I think it's that shift in thinking, to think about new ways of doing things.

01:37:39:03 MANOJ: Of course it doesn't solve every disease there is. But it is one of the greatest things that we've found. This is the answer for the poor. Of course, you know, whether you're poor or-or rich, you're still only a human being. Health is something that's across the board, whether you're rich or poor. When we looked at that for, for, for the poor and said okay well this, this is across all human, uh needs. And if you can do this, how many things does it effect... Is it wide enough?

01:38:10:13 BILLY: Oh yes.

01:38:11:09 MANOJ: ‘Cause I know you made it for, whatever so-

01:38:14:12 BILLY: We still did it for 99 percentile.

01:38:16:08 MANOJ: Yeah. It's still-

01:38:17:19 BILLY: Yeah.

01:38:19:09 MANOJ: So if I gain another twenty pounds, I'm still okay. Interesting part is that once you try it a couple times, like okay, okay. I need that. You just feel better, you are better and you feel better. Um, I mean I've been on it for a couple three years now. And my son says you know in thirty years, I'll be fifty and you'll be forty [laughs] so, so, the, the effects have been remarkable. And so I said okay if I'm going to use it then I need to get that benefit out to everybody. And, uh, we're gonna impact health in a way that no medicine can do it.

01:39:02:10 MANOJ: We have our own jargon to some extent. Like for example somebody comes to me with a project or a product that we're gonna go sell, or, or some, some project. I ask him, is it slam dunk? You know and, and, “no it's really good.” I said, no, no. Is it slam dunk? He says, “ but, but really it's a good product.” And what it does is uh totally clarifies their mind, that, oh no it's not slam dunk. And then I say, well, why are we gonna do it?

01:39:41:04 MANOJ: When we first went out to do philanthropy in a, in a big scale, so we started giving money all over the place and helping other people to do their work. As time goes on you learn stuff and then you realized if you help a little bit it's a good thing, but at my scale you're just throwing sand in the ocean. You know it just disappears, every time you do something... In India for example we're building two hospitals in places where they just don't have any medical facilities. So we started this foundation called The Hans Foundation. We invent stuff here and then the Hans foundation is going to be the one to distribute all of these things which they're not existent there. So as it grows your responsibility grows but also the what you effect grows. There's an old story from Indian scriptures about a blind man heading towards a well. There's a guy who's watching. If the blind man falls into the well. Who gets the blame? Is it the blind man? Or is it the guy who's watching? Our approach to philanthropy. There has to be meaning. I mean the question for us was this. How can we make a sizable difference to alleviate human suffering. Who's got the technology for this who can make this happen?

01:41:24:21 RAVI: Manoj is driven by the fact that work is never done. What it shows is that a single person with a small team can actually affect those five million people. ‘Cause it doesn't take much to then go and say, how do I help the remaining five hundred million?

01:41:43:11 MANOJ: If you're doing really great things that have purpose. You feel great. And so we found a whole bunch of things that we can do ourselves that will make uh, a difference for, you know, for a hundred years. The more wealth you get, the bigger your duty becomes. Which is to help those who have less. Who are suffering. The more you're given the more you're asked. You should be more responsible for the more you're given. It's not a curse, but it's like a weight that if you're given more, more is expected from you. And it should be. It's that simple. That's it.